NCAA Football 2013: Week 12 Foxtel ESPN Game Of The Week - Stanford at USC

Where to Watch: Midday, Sunday (AEDT) – ESPN2/ESPN2-HD
 

Coming in to Saturday night’s showdown at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, these two teams could not be any further apart in terms of pressure and expectation. 

A week after Stanford played it’s best game of the year – perhaps the best game played by anyone this year – to completely stifle Oregon’s dangerous, high-octane offense, the Cardinal suddenly find themselves thrust back into discussion about the BCS National Championship Game in Pasadena in early January. They’re one of those teams lurking, like Baylor and Ohio State, and hoping that Alabama or Florida State will stumble between now and Championship Weekend.

In comparison, USC has no expectation and no pressure whatsoever. This is a team whose season most people wrote off after embarrassing – albeit for different reasons – back-to-back losses against Washington State and Arizona State, which brought about the timely demise of tightly-wound head coach Lane Kiffin. The most polarising figure in college football was replaced by the exuberant Ed Orgeron, and, suddenly, the Trojans have won Pac-12 games and are getting their swagger back. 

Quarterback Cody Kessler looks like a completely different sort of player to the tentative, uncertain one we saw under Kiffin, All-American Wide Receiver Marqise Lee is back healthy, as are so many other players on offense. As a team, they are showing the skill and talent buried beneath so many of Kiffin’s shenanigans.

Look out, USC are dangerous. Stanford would be wise to not overlook a team that is playing with renewed confidence in themselves and in their ability to execute. The Cardinal, leading the Pac-12 North, have the inside track to the Pac-12 Championship Game, which is a nice position to be in, but USC have no such luxury. A win on Saturday night, however, would thrust them right back into a battle for the Pac-12 South that’s a three-way scrap at the moment, between USC, their crosstown rivals UCLA and Arizona State.

A win on Saturday night will put Stanford right there on the brink of another conference championship game appearance – they lead the Pac-12 North by a half game on Oregon, and if results go the right way, the Cardinal may host the championship game. A win on Saturday night will also be the fifth straight win against Southern California, with whom they’ve had quite a rivalry over the years. Remember the words between Harbaugh and Carroll post-game in 2009? That confrontation really stoked the fires between the two teams, and is perhaps what’s propelled the Cardinal to their consecutive string of victories.

Unbelievably, after a loss to Utah earlier in the season, the Cardinal is right back in the hunt for more than just Pac-12 honours. Their defense, so impressive against Oregon last week, will need to back that up with another strong effort, for the Trojans under Ed Orgeron have found their offensive legs, and in the last two weeks have put up nearly a thousand total yards (including 498 yards rushing) in impressive routs of Oregon State and California, both of which came on the road.

The Trojans will be hoping that a return to Los Angeles for Homecoming Weekend, will be just a continuation of the good form that they’ve showed in winning all conference games under Orgeron, whose performance in getting the team back on track has him talked about amongst Texas A&M’s Kevin Sumlin, Boise State’s Chris Petersen and Vanderbilt’s James Franklin as being possibilities to become the next head coach at Southern California. If reports are to be believed, the successful candidate will be known by December.

As good as Southern California has been over the last few weeks, I don’t know that they can beat Stanford – a hard thing for me, a huge USC fan, to write. It will undoubtedly be a close game. Whether they’ve been 3OT thrillers or defensive grinds, recent games between the Cardinal and the Trojans have been close, and Stanford has always been able to draw on a little more to get the win. 

Their offense is accustomed to choking the life out of opposition teams. It’s hard as a defense to stay with this Cardinal team. As much as you know what’s coming, they still get you. QB Kevin Hogan doesn’t dazzle anyone, but he rarely makes mistakes, and RB Tyler Gaffney was the hero of the Oregon game, battering the Ducks for 157 yards on a whopping 45 carries.

Playing in the Coliseum – which will be sold out for the first time in 2013 – doesn’t seem to worry Stanford, either. Aside from winning four straight meetings in this series, they’ve also won three straight in Los Angeles, including the famous 2007 victory. In that game, the Cardinal were 41-point underdogs,  yet beat a stacked USC team featuring QB John David Booty and TE Fred Davis amongst others, by a point, 24-23 with backup QB Tavita Pritchard making his first ever college start. It’s a day that still lives in infamy for USC fans, and one of the greatest moments in Stanford history.

If Stanford can shut down the USC running game, which has been prolific over the last few weeks, I think they win by a couple of touchdowns. It’s been the Javorious ‘Buck’ Allen show on the ground of late. In the last two weeks, he’s scored five touchdowns and run for 268 yards on twenty two carries, as well as made an impact in the passing game. The other USC RB, Penn State transfer Silas Redd, will not play. 

Stanford’s defense isn’t going to let the Trojans march down the field like they’ve done against Cal and Oregon State lately, and it’s – unfortunately – unlikely that Buck Allen and the other USC backs are going to enjoy the same sort of ground game production against a Stanford defense that’s incredibly good in the trenches, allowing less than a hundred rushing yards a game. They held Oregon to less than seventy. They grind on you in a similar manner to their offense. 

That leaves Trojan QB Cody Kessler. He’s been good over the last few weeks, with crisp passing and few turnovers. On Saturday, he’ll need to do more than just protect the football. He’ll need to make big plays to the lethal wide receiver combination of All-American Marqise Lee and standout Nelson Agholor (who starred on special teams last week against Cal) if USC are going to have any chance. Stanford’s defense, as we know from last week, are expects at preventing the big play. I fear it’ll be tough sledding.

Prediction: The game will be decided late…Stanford by two touchdowns.

NCAA College Football 2013: Week 11 Foxtel Game of the Week

No. 2 Oregon at No. 5 Stanford

Where to Watch: 1.00pm, Friday – ESPN2/ESPN2-HD

After the ACC and SEC have stolen the spotlight of late, it’s the Pac-12’s turn to hold a game full of BCS National Championship implications, and it just so happens to feature the two most recognised west coast powers from recent seasons. Stanford and Oregon are set to reignite a rivalry that’s been growing and growing every year, and exploded last year when the Cardinal went into Eugene, OR and beat the previously-undefeated Ducks inside Autzen Stadium, which, of course, is no mean feat. 

That famous – or infamous, depending on which way you look at it – 17-14 overtime win wrecked Oregon’s hopes of a BCS National Championship Game appearance, destroyed QB Marcus Mariota’s shot at a Heisman Trophy and elevated the Cardinal into the box seat in the Pac-12 race, which ended with them squaring off against Wisconsin at the Rose Bowl on New Year’s Day.

The stakes are similar this year in the matchup between the winners of the last four Pac-10/12 Conference Championships, and though Stanford enters the game with a surprise loss on it’s record (against Utah), David Shaw’s team should not be underestimated. Their defensive schemes worked perfectly against Oregon last year on the road, and it would be wise to assume that the Cardinal will look to slow the Ducks down in the same manner this year.

Stopping Mariota is the key. If it was hard last year, it’s nigh on impossible this year. The Ducks quarterback, who is surely right amongst the Heisman Trophy race, has thrown for 2,281 yards and 20 touchdowns so far this season, whilst rushing for 547 yards and nine scores on the ground. His speed and his ability to escape the pocket and turn seemingly a nothing play into a big one is almost unmatched. Outside of Johnny Manziel, Mariota is the most difficult offensive player to plan for in all of football. 

Worse, if you’re a defender hoping to rattle the guy into a mistake, Mariota’s proven that he’s basically unflappable. He hasn’t thrown an interception all season. Indeed, his last pick was in the corresponding game against Stanford nearly a calendar year go. It’s quite an incredible stat, one that must scare the daylights out of defensive coordinators. Stanford has forced turnovers in 33 consecutive games. Obviously, that impressive streak is in some jeopardy on Thursday night.

It’s not all doom and gloom for Stanford. The Cardinal, after a loss in an uneven performance against Utah, have, in back-to-back games since, shut down UCLA’s freewheeling QB Brett Hundley and then Oregon State’s quarterback Sean Mannion, whose season (at least up until getting battered by USC on Friday night) has been pretty spectacular. 

Stanford’s excellent gap-plugging, hard-nosed defense – their tackling pressure and discipline is some of the best in football – is what’s going to be the catalyst, should they end up winning. Last year, they held Mariota to a pedestrian 207 yards passing, with a pick and a touchdown, and managed to keep him in check on the ground. There was a 77-yard scamper early on, and not much after that. In fact, he managed only another twelve yards after that long run. The Cardinal’s defensive penetration was first-rate, and there were many times in last year’s game where Mariota looked noticeably harried by Stanford’s swarming tacklers. 

Saying that Stanford need to get Mariota out of his comfort zone is tough, when he’s been displaying nerves of steel all season long. Then again, he went in with the same sort of season rolling last year, and the Cardinal got to him. It’s got to help their confidence knowing that they were able to do it last year. Who knows? It might just work against Mariota, too.

Can they do it again? Yes, but they’re going to have to be at the absolute top of their game. The offense, led by QB Kevin Hogan, needs long drives – that score six rather than three – to give the defense a chance to recover from the very taxing job of stopping Mariota and his fleet of talented receivers and running backs. Stopping that multiple-threat offense requires a great deal of concentration and effort.

Three and outs for Stanford aren’t going to work. They need to score, obviously, but also possess the football wherever possible. The more time the Ducks offense is watching the game from the sidelines, the better. As good as you are, you can’t score from there. Football fundamentals, preached by coaches from the first day a kid picks up the pigskin, are going to be ultra-important defensively for Stanford. Tackle, tackle, tackle. Wrap up. No arm tackles. Get a guy to the ground. Do that on every play, get some help from the offense, and a turnover or two, and Stanford might just do it.

Prediction: A defense-happy, low-scoring game, with a narrow Oregon win.

NCAA Football 2013: Week 10 Foxtel/ESPN Game Of The Week

No. 7 Miami-FL at No. 3 Florida State

Where to Watch: 11.00am, Sunday – ESPN2/ESPN2-HD

For the second time in two weeks, we arrive at what is being touted as the biggest ACC conference game in years – if not ever. Like two weeks ago, Florida State is featured, and after putting Clemson to the sword in a scary-good performance on national television, the undivided attention of Jimbo Fisher’s Seminole squad turns to their blood rival, the University of Miami Hurricanes.

How good is it to be talking about the ‘Canes and ‘Noles getting together again, in a game with serious National Championship implications? The grand old rivalry’s taken a beating of late, due to down years for both teams, but it’s back in the national spotlight in 2013, with both squads come in undefeated and looking forward to extending that streak at the expense of their most hated rivals.

The matching undefeated records are where the similarities stop. Whilst Florida State has steamrolled it’s way through the season, putting up big scores and video game-like total offense numbers, the Hurricanes have won ugly, relying on last-minute plays and last-gasp comebacks to put themselves in this position heading into Saturday night. In the world of BCS style points, FSU has plenty and Miami? Well, they’ve got none at all. That can change on Saturday night in a game that’s – arguably – as important as any other in a storied and intense rivalry which has never been short on hate and animosity.

There is little need for over-the-top hype, because the gravity of the game speaks for itself. If you hear a player saying they’ll prepare the same way they prepare for every other week or that it’s just another game, don’t believe it. This is more than just another game. This edition of Florida State-Miami signifies the return to the glory days, when the Hurricanes and the Seminoles always battled in a game of national significance. 

It’s good for college football when these two teams are amongst the nation’s best, as they are – in the Top 10 of the latest BCS rankings, even – and as they will be on Saturday night, restoring a little lustre to a rivalry on the wane in recent times. Think of the close games, missed field goals, Hail Mary’s, unexpected blowouts, upset wins, all the drama and flair of southern football at it’s finest. We get it again, magnified, this weekend.

How do you look past Florida State? The difference between these two teams is a marked one. Behind their freshman sensation, QB Jameis Winston (23 touchdowns, the third most in the FBS), the Seminoles seem an unstoppable offensive force. Their shellacking of Clemson two weeks ago proved, if nothing else, that FSU can put up big-time points and eye-popping offensive numbers with the best of them. It proved, too, that Winston isn't scared of the big stage. In fact, he seemed to welcome it, playing his best game of the season – no mean feat, when you consider the season he’s having – in Death Valley, which is about as hostile as it gets. FSU’s defense came to the party, too: their game plan completely nullified Clemson’s high-powered offense. It was men against boys out there. Arguably, coming in, the Tigers were a better team than Miami are. Of course, that didn’t help Dabo Swinney’s team very much, and it must be causing Al Golden’s coaching staff some concern as they prepare for the game.

The odds makers seem to agree with me for they’ve installed Florida State as 21-point favourites. Three touchdowns seems an awful lot when you step back and consider that Miami is also a ranked team, who also happens to be unbeaten as we head into the tenth week of the season. I see it partly as an awfully impressive compliment to the Seminoles and also an indication that the ‘Canes have got lucky and, perhaps, those in the know aren’t of the belief that they’ll be over-matched. There’s an obvious gulf between the two teams that figures, if all goes to plan, to be exposed on Saturday night down in Tallahassee.

Case in point, last weekend where Florida State handled North Carolina State 49-17, the game well beyond doubt before the half, whereas the Hurricanes needed a furious comeback, sparked by two touchdowns from impressive RB Duke Johnson, to beat ACC also-rans Wake Forest, 24-21. The differences between the trajectories of the two games could not have been any more glaring.

In their last three games of this season, FSU has recorded victories by 63, 37 and 32 points. Miami has had to come from double digits down in their last three games. Their victories have been close-run things. From a historical standpoint – recent history, anyway – Florida State have had the wood, winning the last three games by a combined 101-56 score. Whichever way you slice and dice the numbers, it does not look good for the Hurricanes.

Do Miami stand a chance? Well, it’s a 50-50 proposition, football, and if this rivalry’s taught us anything over the years, it’s that you should expect the unexpected. Strange things happen. If Miami can force turnovers and control the Florida State offense like Florida State controlled the Clemson offense two weeks ago, anything’s possible. After all, that’s why they play the game.

Prediction: The nature of the rivalry will keep the scores close for about three quarters, before Florida State, aided by both a parochial home crowd and the fact that they are the vastly better team, pull away to win by about four touchdowns.

NCAA Football 2013: Week 9 Game of the Week

No. 12 UCLA @ No. 3 Oregon

Perhaps the biggest Pac 12 game of the season features the hometown Ducks, who are a miniscule percentage behind Florida State in the BCS rankings, and, poised to overtake Jimbo Fisher's Seminoles squad with a win against UCLA this weekend. Game Day is in town, further advertising that this is the Game of the Week, between two teams who have alternately been the class of the conference for years (Oregon) and are a resurgent unit under a new coach (UCLA).

Some of the luster has left this contest because Stanford managed to slow down the terrific UCLA QB Brett Hundley - one of the truly great revelations of this season and last - last week, thus stamping out most of what the Bruins tried to do offensively en route to a 24-10 win. It was the first time we've seen Jim Mora Jnr's squad unable to execute much of what they wanted, and you can bet that the Oregon coaching staff would have broken down that film extensively over the week. Worryingly for the Bruins, Hundley may have a cobbled-together offensive line in front of him this week,

Of course, stopping Oregon's incredible offense is a problem. QB Marcus Mariota is right up there in the Heisman Trophy race, and despite turning over the ball twice on fumbles last week, is yet to throw an interception on the season. He has nineteen touchdown passes and a further nine running scores. When he's on, watch out. And with weapons like De'Anthony Thomas (returning from a 3-game absence), Oregon have many ways to exploit a defense. You plan for stopping one guy and another pops up. This is as multiple an offense as there is anywhere in the nation. Truly, they are a giant threat to score on every single snap, even from one inside of their own 5-yard line.

Ultimately, it's about speed at Oregon. Speed kills. The Ducks have speed to burn. It's everywhere. They smack you in the mouth lightning-quick, then come back and do it again. Mariota's as electric a runner as he is a passer: a dual-threat quarterback in the best sense of the world, and he's been lighting up college football for eight weeks, providing highlight reel plays and rolling up video game-like numbers. It remains to be seen whether any defense can slow him down, let alone stop him. Alabama's would like a chance, and what a titanic struggle that would be. Can UCLA slow Mariota down? I don't know. It'll be difficult. It's been difficult all year. Ask Washington.

In recent weeks, Oregon's oft-maligned defense has really stood up to be counted, playing as well - and, arguably, better - than their offensive cousins in parts of the last games, and were particularly impressive in the big game against Washington two weeks ago. This is a unit on the rise, and with Hundley missing some of his big eaters up front, they may get a sniff of blood in the water, and exploit it. 

Last week, Hundley was sacked four times, and held to a season-low 190 yards. Adding insult to injury, RB Jordon James was absent for a second consecutive week. Stanford's defense held them to a paltry 74 total rushing yards, a season-low total. Both running and passing, the Bruins just didn't look like their usual selves against the Cardinal. If Oregon's defense can achieve similar goals against UCLA this week, I don't see how the Bruins can go up there and win.

With all respect to Stanford, they aren't as offensively capable as Oregon - at least, not in terms of quick scores - and if the Ducks offense gets a handful of possessions in the first half, they might put the game out of reach. Hundley has to find passing lanes. The offensive line, banged-up though it is, must allow the running game to function and to flourish. A repeat of last week cannot happen, or UCLA will be embarrassed. It's tough enough to win against Oregon, especially in Autzen Stadium, when everything's going to plan, and nigh on impossible when it's not. The Bruins need to score basically every time they have the football, and hope - pray, even - for some defensive miracles.

My tip: Ducks by fourteen, pulling away late.

NCAA Football: Week 8's Game of the Week

No. 5 Florida State at No. 3 Clemson

Where to Watch? Sunday morning, 11.00am on ESPN2/ESPN2-HD

This is it – the ACC showdown we’ve been waiting for all season. You don’t need me to tell you what sort of a showcase this is for the conference, but the spotlight is going to be brighter than ever, with ESPN’s College GameDay on the scene, setting up what should be an extraordinary football game.

Basically, it’s two red-hot offenses against two mediocre-to-bad defenses (though, Clemson do lead the nation in sacks), facing off in Memorial Stadium, one of the great venues in all of college football, and the scene of an epic primetime game (Georgia at Clemson) in the first week of the season. We can only hope that Saturday night’s game will be half as good.

You wonder if Clemson might not have been looking ahead to this game last week, for they trailed Boston College into the second half, and generally seemed like they were sleep-walking their way through that contest – exactly what coaches hate to see. Clemson’s players are saying that it might be the biggest game in the history of the ACC, and that’s another thing coaches hate. The more pressure there is, the more teams tend to get away from football fundamentals. At least, those teams that aren’t really ready for the pressure of a big game tend to stray. We’ll see on Saturday night whether Clemson or Florida State are pretenders or contenders.

The Seminoles come in off a bye week, and before that their offense put nine touchdowns on the scoreboard, whilst their defense shut out and shut down a Maryland offense that’s been pretty good so far this year. Unfortunately for FSU, they don’t have a good track record in Memorial Stadium, where they haven’t tasted victory since 2001. More encouragingly, Florida State won last year’s matchup on home turf in Tallahassee, overrunning Clemson (who led 27-13 at one time) for a 49-37 victory.  Go further back, and you discover that the Tigers won two years ago

This year, it’s all about the quarterbacks: Clemson’s established star Tajh Boyd, who has fifteen touchdown passes this season, and Florida State’s electrifying newcomer, Jameis Winston, who has seventeen. Both are brilliant. Both are Heisman Trophy candidates. Both have strong arms, and can get things done with their legs. Both can make defenses look inept. Both can win the game with a moment of unadulterated talent. And they just may.

This looks like being one of those back and forth games where the team who has the football last wins the game. There’ll be offense galore, because there are weapons galore for both quarterbacks to exploit. Defensive stops will probably be rare as hens teeth, but if a defensive unit can force a turnover, it might shift the balance of the game in the favour of their offense. Winston and Boyd will have to be impeccable, right when the glare of the nation is focused on them.

It’s a tough game to pick, and I give the narrow edge to Clemson, primarily because they are at home, will have a raucous home crowd to rely upon when Florida State have the football, and because Boyd is more tested in big-game situations than Winston is. He might be rattled by the parochially hostile crowd interrupting communication with his players. If Clemson’s defensive line gets into gear, watch out. That’s not to say that the Seminoles can’t go in and steal a win, but I believe it’ll take a near-perfect effort. In that atmosphere, it’ll be tough.

Whoever wins, if the game lives up to the hype – and I think it will – it should be an incredible spectacle. Clemson by a field goal.

NCAA Football 2013: Week 5's Game of the Week

No. 23 Wisconsin @ No. 4 Ohio State

We know that both Louisiana State and Georgia are going to figure prominently in the hunt for an SEC title — and, by extension, the National Championship — but the same can’t be said for teams out of the Big Ten.

There’s a lot of uncertainty about the real quality of the conference, preseason rankings aside, because the first month of the season has shown us little but the ability of a lot of supposedly-talented Big Ten teams beating up on the likes of Florida A&M, who is in nobody’s list of football superpowers.

That’s why the Game of the Week this week is out of the Big Ten:

Coverage: Sunday September 29, 10.00 a.m. on ESPN2 & ESPN2-HD.
 

There’s so much to learn out of this game. From the top: will Ohio State’s Heisman hopeful QB Braxton Miller reclaim his starting spot from backup Kenny Guiton, who has been playing out of his mind? Can the Buckeye defense, which really hasn’t been tested, stand up against the fleet of brilliant Wisconsin running backs?Can Wisconsin’s QB Joel Stave make enough big throws to keep OSU off balance defensively and perhaps exploit their weak secondary? Will either defense really have an impact on this game?

Ohio State’s Quarterback(s)

You’d assume that Miller will come back in as soon as he’s ready to go, because he’s a prodigious, game-changing talent, but on how short a leash he’ll be on now that Guiton’s proven to be red-hot, we don’t yet know. 

It must be nice for Urban Meyer to have such a wealth of talent at the key offensive position. Guiton’s been a major revelation, a veteran senior who has never started a game until this year. It seemed like Disaster Central when Miller went down, but it hasn’t been anywhere near as bad as we first thought. 

Wisconsin’s Running Back(s)

Wisconsin have perhaps the best one-two-three set of backs in the country, led by the brilliant Melvin Gordon. They are big, strong, agile, don’t seem to mind dragging defenders with them…and are going to be hard to stop. I think they can roll up yards against anyone in the Big Ten. That’s how good they are. 

One thing that doesn’t exactly work in their favour is the noted struggles that Wisconsin’s QB Joel Stave has been having. More on this below, but, suffice to say he’s not a major threat hurling the pigskin, so if Ohio State stack the box it’ll be tougher to get yards. Wisconsin might have to get creative: run the ball out to the boundaries; maybe a toss play or a pitch or something to try and get these guys in space. Watch out, if they find it.

Joel Stave

I’ve barely seen the Badger quarterback make a good throw all season, and he figures to be under a stack more pressure this week than he’s seen so far. He needs to be relied upon to make big throws at big times in games, and there’s not a wealth of evidence suggesting he can do so. 

Some of his attempts against Purdue were cringe-worthy bad. But Ohio State’s secondary seems vulnerable, and he might therefore be able to turn that to his advantage. A few good throws deep, some play action stuff, that’s all you need, just to try and make the defense respect both the run and the throw. If Stave can air it out with success, getting guys like WR Jared Abrederis into the game, the Buckeyes are going to have less personnel to deal with stopping the run.

Defense

Ohio State’s defense hasn’t had to do much of anything against their early opponents, which leaves us not knowing a lot about their capabilities. Friends of mine who are Ohio State fans are concerned about their secondary, which will be defending the deep ball against a quarterback in Stave who hasn’t shown much ability throwing it. Then there’s the run game to be combatted thirty or forty plays this game. 

And Wisconsin figure to have their hands full stopping an Ohio State offense that — granted, against inferior opposition — has been all sorts of unstoppable so far this year. Even so, Guiton or Miller is plenty good enough to make big plays against the best defense they’ll have seen in 2013. The duel threat factor is what weighs big in my opinion. Ohio State have it, Wisconsin don’t and it’s tough to stop.

In a game where defense will be at a premium, a turnover might be enormous.

Home Field Advantage

Never underestimate the home crowd’s ability to sway the game. One hundred thousand Buckeye fans are going to be falling out of their skins in this one. Ohio Stadium is one of the great college environments. Saturday night there’ll be an electric atmosphere under lights, with a national — international! — television audience watching on. It’s going to be tough on the Wisconsin offense when so many people are screaming their lungs out whenever they’re on the field. It matters.

Who Wins?

If things go to plan, Ohio State – though only just, I think. For mine, it comes down to what Wisconsin can (and, also, can’t) do offensively. I don’t trust Stave to make enough big plays at the business end of the game. Therefore, Ohio State can lock down on the Badger running backs, and snuff Wisconsin out that way. As for the Buckeyes when they have the ball, I figure Guiton or Miller is going to move the football enough to eek out a win. 

Buckeyes by seven.